Hall of Instruction.
Syvelium stands alert nearby. A sigil in the shape of a small, rectangular 
monolith is on the ground. A bright-eyed missionary serenely patrols the 
streets of Enorian. A peacemaker of Enorian stands here, one hand on the pommel
of his sword. A valkyrie fire maiden stands here, wielding an enchanted halberd
that shimmers with elemental heat. A full-grown rat prowls near your feet. 
Jessainia, Paladin Recruit is here. She wields a butterfly net in her left hand
and an Amber Sword in her right. Kjunin, Squire of Rasmallah is here. He wields
a shining steel longsword in his left hand and a shining steel longsword in his
right. Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit is here, sprawled on the floor. He
wields a shining steel longsword in his left hand and a butterfly net in his 
right. Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly is here, sprawled on the floor. He 
wields a shining steel longsword in his left hand and a shining steel longsword
in his right. Lady Kira Alberic is here. She wields a shining steel longsword 
in her left hand and a shining steel longsword in her right. Lord Koron 
Thylarian is here. He wields a blackened warhammer in his hands.
You see exits leading east (open door), up and down (open door).

You say, "Ok, now, my time is short so I would like to ask you all now for the 
class I actually asked you to come .. most of you at least."

Reynald sits down.

Reynald tilts his head and listens intently.

You say, "Very well then, today we'll talk about venom combos and specific 
venom combinations."

You say, "Ok, first, what does combo mean to make sure ya all understand what I
am talking about?"

You say, "And ya can simply answer, no need to raise hands or anything."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "A combination of venoms, perhaps?"

You nod your head at Asilient.

You say, "Yes."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Or what a monk does to ya if you give
them a chance."

You say, "Yes, it's quite the same."

You say, "Let me remind you that our main attack doesn't give any afflictions, 
this is why we have to rely on venoms during combat."

You say, "The true skill of a Paladin in combat is mainly the way he uses these
venoms."

You say, "We have talked last time about venoms, their description at least and
their effect, so I'll take you all know them .. or hope so at least."

You say, "First, can someone tell me why there are DIFFERENT combinations that 
effective for each class and even race?"

You say, "Come on, don't be shy, at least a guess?"

Kjunin, Squire of Rasmallah says, "Different classes often rely on the same or 
similar types of attacks, for which certain venoms are better at stopping them.
A Tekura user kicks and punches, so Epteth and Epseth are of use."

You nod your head at Kjunin.

You say, "Yes, that would be a good answer."

You say, "Now, we should better start with each class and see how this 
applies."

You say, "Let's start with Knights since ya should all know this more .. I 
hope."

You say, "First, there are 2 types of Knights as far as I see it."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Speed and power knights, right?"

You nod your head at Asilient.

Asilient looks about himself, rubbing his chin thoughtfully.

You say, "First: those that go for speed, trying to give as many afflictions as
possible."

You say, "Most of them are Rajamala."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "But there are other races that make 
good speed knights."

You say, "Now, who can explain how this can be an effective tactic?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Because if you are inflicting 
combinations of venoms faster than your opponent can cure them you they get 
left wide open with having to fight defensively."

You say, "Yes, but if they give a very small ammount of damage, how can they 
KILL the opponent?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Impaling once the have worn down an 
opponent may work, cleave and beheading, too."

You say, "Yes, but in order to impale, you have to be prone, paralysed .."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Especially if a speed knight puts 
hellsight into effect for a venom lock."

You say, "How can giving many afflictions help with impaling?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Well, many afflicitions..."

Kjunin, Squire of Rasmallah says, "It can delay the curing of being prone."

Kjunin, Squire of Rasmallah says, "Whichever way it is."

You say, "Yes ..."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "The most common one would be 
paralysis to leave them exposed, if they are recovering other afflicitions, 
well it buys time."

Lord Koron Thylarian says, "To impale your opponent, he doesn't have to be 
prone. Paralysed is enough."

You nod your head at Koron.

Lord Koron Thylarian says, "Same goes for behead."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Doesn't web work too?"

You say, "Yes, they idea is this: you give many afflictions, trying to beat his
curing, eventually going for a venomlock."

Koron nods his head at Asilient.

You say to Asilient, "Yes."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "But so many people can counter that 
quickly."

You say, "Now, I've explained what venomlock is last time, can someone repeat 
to make sure ya still know."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "A combination of Anorexia, Asthma and
slickness."

You say, "Basicly, yes."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Preventing any curing of 
afflictions."

Kira looks about herself, rubbing her chin thoughtfully.

You say, "Preventing him from curing his afflictions and preventing him from 
healing also."

Lady Kira Alberic says, "Doesn't fitness work?"

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Yeah."

You say, "There are ways to escape."

You say, "But basicly, not many know how to get out."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Although it can be hard to escape a 
venom lock.."

You say, "If you have someone venom locked, in most cases you can even newbie 
kick them to death."

Kira grins mischievously at you.

You say, "In 99.9% of the cases will work."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Yes!"

You say, "Venom lock is a powerful tool. Used properly it can be a successful 
tactic."

Borscin arrives from the down.

You say to Borscin, "Welcome."

You say, "Still, in order to achieve this, you have to be very fast."

You point accusingly at Borscin.

You snicker softly to yourself.

Borscin shifts his eyes from side to side suspiciously.

You flash Borscin a joyous smile.

The corners of Kira's mouth turn up as she grins mischievously.

You say to Borscin, "Were talking about speedy paladins."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Oh."

"Heh heh heh" Borscin chuckles.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Or very lucky.."

You nod your head at Asilient.

You say, "So, a Rajamala with 2 good rapiers can someone's curing."

You say, "Can someone explain what that means?"

You say, "Hmm, or perhaps I should explain what I meant."

Kira grins mischievously at you.

You shift your eyes from side to side suspiciously.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "A speedy knight using speedy blades 
can really mess people up.."

You say, "Ok, the idea is this: between 2 different hits in which you give 2 
afflictions, a person cannot heal both of them."

Lady Kira Alberic says, "What about a speedy knight with slow blades?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Gah!"

You say, "So, on the second hit, he will get 2 more ... and so on."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Best of both worlds, then."

You say to Kira, "We'll get to that soon."

Lord Koron Thylarian says, "I'm sorry, but I must take my leave."

You say, "So, speed can be a tactic a knight can use in combat."

Lord Koron Thylarian says, "Enjoy the class."

You nod your head at Koron.

Borscin bows respectfully to Koron.

Koron doffs his hat cordially.

Kira waves goodbye at Koron.

You say, "Now, let's see .. what weapons should a "speedy" Knight use?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Mainly rapiers."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Rapiers."

Borscin nods his head sagely.

Kira shifts her eyes from side to side suspiciously.

Lady Kira Alberic says, "Rapiers."

Kjunin, Squire of Rasmallah says, "Abnormal scimitars."

Kira preens, clearly impressed with her accomplishments.

You say, "Any other weapons that might work?"

The corners of your mouth turn up as you grin mischievously.

You nod your head at Kjunin.

"Heh heh heh" Borscin chuckles.

You say, "Ok, rapiers can be VERY fast so many people just use those."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "A big ol' war hammer?"

Asilient shifts his eyes from side to side suspiciously.

You roll your eyes at Asilient.

Kira grins mischievously at Asilient.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Ok... bad idea, I see..."

You say, "Now, let's see .. why wouldn't a Rajamala knight want to use slow 
weapons like axes or hammers?"

You turn your gaze from Asilient, shifting your eyes from side to side 
suspiciously.

"Oooooooooh!" Kira says, eyes wide with wonder.

Kira raises her hand quickly to high above her head.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Because it hinders their speed?"

You say, "Yeah."

Kira sticks out her tongue at Asilient. How rude!

"Tsk, tsk," you say to Kira as you waggle a finger at her.

Kira lowers her head as she realizes how ashamed she is of herself.

Asilient pats Kira in a friendly manner.

You say, "A Raja with slow weapons is quite a strange combination."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "But it can work?"

You say, "First, they'd have slow speed from weapons yet quite poor damage from
their strength."

Lady Kira Alberic says, "Wouldn't they be regular-speed, then?"

Borscin nods his head at you.

You say, "Not to say quite low health."

Kira looks about herself, rubbing her chin thoughtfully.

Lady Kira Alberic says, "I never thought of it that way."

You say, "So, this combination can be decent at most .. yet in most cases won't
be too bright."

You say, "They can use let's say a hammer for shatter then immeditelly switch 
to rapiers to behead."

You say, "But to use for a full fight it can be .. well, a weak combination."

You say, "Now, on the other side ... let's see the "bully" Knights."

You say, "Those that go for damage rather than speed."

Asilient gives you the once-over, eyeing you suspiciously.

You snicker softly to yourself.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Like you?"

Asilient quickly ducks down, looking at you in alarm.

You say to Asilient, "Yeah."

Kira grins mischievously at Asilient.

You say, "They are mainly focused on doing lots of damage .. and be able to 
take damage as well."

You say, "So, what races should they choose?"

Lady Kira Alberic says, "Troll?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Troll or Xoran."

You say, "Why not dwarves?"

The corners of your mouth turn up as you grin mischievously.

Lady Kira Alberic says, "Dwarves are silly?"

Asilient waves his hand dismissively at the world, clearly demonstrating his 
boredom.

You grin mischievously at Kira.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Height disadvantage?"

You grumble angrily.

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Well, dwarves aren't as strong as 
Xorani and Trolls."

You say, "Dwarves are just as good."

You nod your head at Borscin.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Oh, and no one tells Kelly I said 
that,."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "But."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "They make up for it in tankiness."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "They can really take damage."

You say, "Still, they can be good for damage knights."

Asilient hums innocently to himself.

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You nod your head at Borscin.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Yeah, Dwarves can last a little 
longer.."

You say, "Ok, now let's see what venoms and tactics can be applied BY each of 
these and AGAINST them."

You say, "Also some tactics."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Long range attacks?"

You say, "First, when it comes to fighting Knights, there is a golden rule."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Like bows which are envenomed."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan exclaims, "Smoke skullcap!"

You say to Asilient, "It is an idea."

You nod your head at Borscin.

You say, "Yeah."

You say, "ALWAYS always use skullcap."

You say, "Who can tell me why is this effective?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Then any venoms they may have bounce 
right back at them."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "I can."

Reynald shrugs helplessly.

You say to Reynald, "You can just answer."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Also weapon attacks."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "And arrows."

You shake your head.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "And you can also apply your own 
touches on top."

You say, "Not arrows."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Not arrows."

Reynald raises an eyebrow questioningly.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "So much has changed."

Reynald shakes his head.

Kira wraps a comforting arm around Reynald.

Kira strokes Reynald's head in consolation.

Reynald gives a pained sigh.

You say, "Ok, so remember this rule and most important: MAKE SURE you put the 
rebounding aura back up in a fight .. try to have it up as much as you can."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Just having it for a second won't help you, but having it at much as 
possible it is VERY helpful."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Smoke it like a chain smoker."

You say to Reynald, "Pretty much yes."

You say, "Ok, now one skill that we have and is a MUST for a Knight."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Wouldn't it be an idea to try and 
scare off a power knights falcon, too?"

You say, "Grip in chivalry."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Grip is the same as fist sigil 
yes?"

You say to Asilient, "We'll get to that."

You say to Reynald, "Well .."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Grips a little different."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Im a old man in a young body."

You flash Reynald a joyous smile.

Kira pats Reynald in a friendly manner.

You say, "Ok, now what does grip do?"

You concentrate on gripping tightly with your hands.

"Oooooooooh!" Kira says, eyes wide with wonder.

Kira raises her hand quickly to high above her head.

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Gives you a deathlock grip on your 
weapons."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Prevents you from being disarmed."

You say, "Yes."

Kira murmurs softly to herself.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "And dropping your weapons."

Kjunin, Squire of Rasmallah says, "It is however released when struck with a 
bladehand."

You say to Asilient, "Exactly."

Kjunin, Squire of Rasmallah says, "Learnt that last month."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "It can also be stripped, like a 
defense."

You say, "Monks can disarm you though."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Bladehand?"

Saradin tells you, "I can disarm people."

You say to Saradin, "Show us?"

Saradin strikes out at you with a bladehand.
Your grip loosens as Saradin attacks your hands.
You concentrate on gripping tightly with your hands.

Kira grins mischievously at Saradin.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Reflexes."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "So wonderful."

You say to Reynald, "Yes."

Saradin leaps into the the air and launches a flying kick at you.
Saradin connects painfully.

You say to Reynald, "A must against monks."

Saradin taps his nose knowingly.

You grin mischievously at Saradin.

You say to Saradin, "Ok, thank you."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "And just about anything."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Reflexes are priceless."

You say, "Just remember to always GRIP."

You say, "Now, who can explain WHY this skill is so good in a fight?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "You are helpless without your 
weapons?"

You say, "Exactly."	

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Unless you have a mean kick.."

You say, "Basicly all our skills use weapons."

You roll your eyes.

You roll your eyes.

Kira grins mischievously at Asilient.

Reynald utters a deep, rumbling laugh.

Asilient's mouth turns up as his face breaks into a smile.

You say, "And don't forget Devotion users can FORCE you relax grip .. so, watch
for this one against them as well."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Still, remember that in order to put grip back on you need both 
balance and equilibrium .. so it can be hard sometimes."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Why would devotion users do that when
you can shrivel, or target arms."

You shake your head.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Because."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "With their angel."

You say, "If you are NOT gripping, and get a hit with double epteth .. who can 
tell me what happens?"

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "They can make you DROP your 
weapon."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "As in fall to the floor."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "As in not in your inventory."

You say, "There are many skills that can make you drop weapons."

Kjunin, Squire of Rasmallah says, "You are forced to unwield your swords."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Which means you have to retrieve them
AND wield them."

Reynald nods his head at Asilient.

Lady Kira Alberic says, "What if they take your swords?"

You say, "Though luck."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "That sucks."

You nod your head emphatically.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Have a back up pair of swords?"

The corners of Kira's mouth turn up as she grins mischievously.

You say, "Good idea."

You say, "Well, for a knight, a hit with double epteth would make your weapons 
drop in your inventory as well."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Or if you have force, force them to 
give them back?"

The corners of Kira's mouth turn up as she grins mischievously.

You say, "So, being in a fight without weapons in your hands AND with arms 
broken can be a problem."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Verymuch so."

You say, "Who can tell me WHAT can be effective against someone without weapons
in his hands? (and not monk)"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "There's no can be about it, it is a 
problem."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "That is why you are either the 
fast or the dead."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Targetting."

You say, "Yes."

You say, "Just target head if you are the attacker."

You say, "So, what does a targetted attack do to head?"

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Eventualy deals a cuncussion."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Cause severe damage eventually 
renderring them helpless."

You nod your head emphatically.

Kira grins mischievously at Reynald.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Couldn't have said it better."

You say, "So, in all cases it is deadly."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Makes me want a helmet."

"Heh heh heh" you chuckle.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Although you can defend against 
targetted attacks..."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "As long as you have weapons."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Parry."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

Reynald nods his head emphatically.

You say, "This is why it should NEVER be taken by surprise by this .. 
especially against monks."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "I find it essential against monks to 
parry."

You say, "One combo to the head and ya can be so dead."

Invoker of Light, Master Saradin Dien'dal-Mirari says, "Against a monk head 
targetting can get you killed."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Very fast."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "I never target against monks."

You say, "I'm talking about a fight AGAINST a monk."

You say, "While fighting a monk, a golden rule is to NOT target anything .. 
ever."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "It could leave you hugely exposed."

Invoker of Light, Master Saradin Dien'dal-Mirari says, "That's why I enjoy 
having Trip."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Should also keep parry on head."

You nod your head emphatically.

Invoker of Light, Master Saradin Dien'dal-Mirari says, "AXK is very deadly."

You say to Saradin, "Aetolian, Saradin."

Invoker of Light, Master Saradin Dien'dal-Mirari says, "And make sure your 
limbs stay strong."

You nod your head emphatically.

Reynald flexes his muscles in an impressive display of strength.

Invoker of Light, Master Saradin Dien'dal-Mirari says, "Axekick is very 
deadly."

You say, "Now let's get back to the subject."

You nod your head emphatically.

Saradin pets you ingratiatingly.

You say, "We were talking about Knight fighting."

You say, "What venoms should a speed Knight use generally?"

You say, "Against another knight let's say."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Ones that can have a lasting effect?"

You say, "Or in general."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Now there are speed knights!?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Like Curare."

You say, "Define lasting effect."

The corners of your mouth turn up as you grin mischievously.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Bloody hell."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Epseth, epteth."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Stuff to slow people down."

You say to Reynald, "Well, the knights that go for speed."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Aconite, curare."

You nod your head at Borscin.

Reynald nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Basicly, they'd use venoms that get cured with the same plant or 
salve."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Just because this is required in order to beat herb/salve balance."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Because you cannot cure two 
afflictions with one herb and have to recover herb balance."

You say, "Ok, now, what should do you do if you are fighting such a Knight?"

You nod your head at Asilient.

Kira grins mischievously at Saradin.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Aura of rebounding should be up."

You nod your head at Asilient.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Hmmm."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "You should also try not to let them 
control the combat."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Well."

You say, "I mean, if you are being hit by such a Knight and you're beginning to
have trouble curing."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "I have a good one."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "If he has reflexes."

You say, "What skills, venoms can you use?"

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Aconite/curare works well to slow them
down. Webbing also can slow them down."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Throw him of balance."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "And voyria him."

You say, "Also, don't forget about shield."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "I forget which venom, but you can 
inflict weakening."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Keep him off of balance so he cant
cure it."

The corners of Reynald's mouth turn up as he grins mischievously.

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says to Asilient, "Vernalius."

You say, "Voyria is a bad idea though."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says to Asilient, "But that's better for 
Damage Knights."

You say, "Ok, let's take them one by one."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "You need to stress voyria."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "People dont know about it."

Asilient nods his head at Borscin.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "I was sparing agianst a 87 
Infernal Knight."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "I beat him."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "He never learned about voyria."

You say, "Voyria is very bad in most cases against Knights .. the only time it 
works is against a non-experienced fighter."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Several squires and a few knights 
in Paladins dont know about it."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "The signs anyways."

You nod your head at Reynald.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "The signs, if you know the signs 
your good."

Darcelle arrives from the down.

With flawless elegancy, Darcelle extends a regal arm and bows low.

You say, "First, let's see Shield though."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Dont think bleeding from your nose
is a nose bleed."

You nod your head at Darcelle.

The corners of Reynald's mouth turn up as he grins mischievously.

You grin mischievously at Reynald.

Asilient flashes Darcelle a joyous smile.

Kira grins mischievously at Reynald.

Smiling wistfully, Syvelium quietly hums a song from the Enorian choir.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "And thus, the grinning starts."

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "Sorry it took so long."

You say, "Now, against most cases, shield is not very helpful."

You say, "Simple because razing a shield or using hammer is faster than 
shielding."

You say, "Still, against a Knight, it can be effective."

You say, "Who can tell me why this is although they can raze AND use use RSL?"

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Rsl..."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "What is that."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Ab chivalry rsl."

You say, "Razeslash."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Because you can do it right 
after."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Err, razeslash, yeah."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Like whisper and frenzy."

You peer at Reynald unscrupulously.

Reynald coughs softly.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Raze and slash an opponent at the 
same time."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Razeing shield and attacking."

You nod your head emphatically.

You say, "Ok, now the answer is this: if you have BOTH rebounding aura and 
shield up, no attack can get though from first .."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Does it add the twist of hitting with
any venom you may have applied?"

You say, "Just one venom."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "So, they would have to either raze twice and hit, or raze once and 
use rsl."

You say, "In both cases, it gives you some precious time."

You say, "So remember this tactic, it is easy to use, yet effective sometimes."

You suddenly perceive the vague outline of an aura of rebounding around 
Darcelle.

Darcelle's mouth turns up as her face breaks into a smile.

You feel that Darcelle deserves some congratulations and you clap wildly.

"Heh heh heh" Reynald chuckles.

You say, "So, what do you do if someone is doing this against you?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Get your defences back up 
immediately."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Make it so they cant."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Then counter attack."

You say, "Well, there is no sure counter attack against this .. yet you can try
some .. tricks."

You say, "You can try to hellsight them."

You say, "You can force them .."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "If you have force, you can force them 
to do something, and it would take down shield and aura."

You nod your head emphatically.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit suddenly impales you on a shining steel 
longsword.

You grin mischievously at Reynald.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "That can throw someone off."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "If you know it."

You say, "It doesn't go through shield I'm affraid."

Reynald shrugs helplessly.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "They will still WRITHE and go off 
balance."

You say, "And they have to be paralysed, webbed or prone."

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "You can force them to hit just dont say 
what to hit."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "If they have reflexes."

You say, "Force is the bast counter against it."

You say, "You can also web them."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Sticky strangs of webbing spray 
all over you."

You say, "Might give you a bit of help."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Or something like that."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan asks, "Can't web through shield, can you?"

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says to you, "If you want you can use me as a 
test doll."

Darcelle's mouth turns up as her face breaks into a smile.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Or me."

Reynald utters a deep, rumbling laugh.

You put your hands on your hips and go "Hmmm!"

You say, "I remember you could .."

You say to Darcelle, "Mind if we try?"

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Hey."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "I always thought you couldn't.."

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says to Reynald, "Heh i dont know how much 
health you got i dont think you could stand it."

Darcelle nods enthusiastically at you and says "Sure!"

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Spray me so I can see what it 
saysy."

Sticky strands of webbing spray out to cover Reynald as you touch the web 
tattoo.

You say to Reynald, "Happy?"

Reynald has writhed free of his bindings.

Reynald nods his head at you.

A dizzying beam of energy strikes you as your attack rebounds off of Darcelle's
shield.

Lady Kira Alberic says, "My turn!"

You say, "Right, it doesn't work though shield .."

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "No you cant trough shield."

You nod your head at Borscin.

Flashing a wide grin, Borscin gives the thumbs-up sign.

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "I think its transfix that can go 
through."

You say to Darcelle, "Too bad we can't transfix."

Reynald gives a pained sigh.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "I must leave."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan asks you, "Shield for me?"

You touch the shield tattoo and suddenly a nearly invisible magical shield 
forms around you.

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says to you, "I can get my dad here to see if 
it goes through."

Borscin looks in your direction and begins to recite the holy verses.

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Ah."

You blink incredulously at Borscin.

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Purity goes through shield."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "In devotion."

You say, "Yeah."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Good against someone with bad 
alignment."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Especially if they shield."

You say, "Yes, bad against Paladins."

Borscin grins and nods.

You say, "Ok, now, let's see the Knights that go for damage."

You say, "Tanky ones."

Asilient looks about himself, rubbing his chin thoughtfully.

Darcelle puts her hands on her hips and says "Huh?"

You flash Darcelle a joyous smile.

You say, "Now, on a good day, one like that can make up to 1.5k-2k damage 
against someone with weak armor."

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says to you, "Raze me twice and try a hit."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "They can be lethal with powerful 
weapons... although this can slow them down even more."

Your aggressive action causes the nearly invisible magical shield around you to
fade away.
You raze Darcelle's aura of rebounding with a dwarven battleaxe.

You raze Darcelle's magical shield with a dwarven battleaxe.

You glance over Darcelle and see that her health is at 3217/3217.

It is a one-handed weapon.
Damage: 156  To-hit: 132  Speed: 118
A dwarven battleaxe has no venoms or magical effects on it.

You swing a dwarven battleaxe at Darcelle with all your might.
Lightning-quick, you jab Darcelle with a dwarven battleaxe.

You glance over Darcelle and see that her health is at 2034/3217.

Darcelle takes a drink from a jade colored vial.

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "That did quite alot heh."

You rub your hands together in prayer, and feel healing energy begin to emanate
into your surroundings.

You say, "That was with 15 strength."

You say, "And against someone with fieldplate."

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "3217 to 1874."

You say, "Yes."

Borscin whistles appreciatively.

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "I dont have fielfplate i'm Horkval."

You grin mischievously at Darcelle.

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Horkval.."

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "Field even."

You say to Darcelle, "Ok, body armor."

You say, "With 18 strength and leather armor .. it can hurt."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Interesting choice for a knight.."

You nod your head at Borscin.

You say, "Now, what tactics can be effective aginst such Knights?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Slowing them down even more than they
already are?"

You say, "Yes."

You say, "Other ideas?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Going affliction crazy."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Using vernalius to there attacks are 
weaker."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Using prefarar so they take more 
damage."

You say, "Yes, all are good."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Using xentio so they miss a lot."

You nod your head at Borscin.

You say, "Very good."

You say, "Now, how to make them slower?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Paralysis, falcon."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Stupidity."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Broken arms."

You say, "Yes, ALWAYS remember your falcon."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "All help out in some way."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Especially the falcon."

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "Hmm when i spar i borrow bow of hunt and
use loki."

You say, "Spam them with afflictions is also a good idea."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say to Darcelle, "Bows can be quite weak in Knight vs Knight fight."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "In theory a speed knight can decimate
a power knight."

You say, "In theory."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "Then i do the Gryphon quest and use 
Falcon."

Darcelle's mouth turns up as her face breaks into a smile.

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Ok, what do you do if someone is trying this tactic against you?"

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "I killed someone with rank 6 or 
somthing."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Throw them off balance to buy healing
time?"

You say, "Or use monkshood ..."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "I get the gryphon to follow the person 
and kill while i step out and shoot."

You say to Darcelle, "It is an idea."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Which'll turn the falcon against it's
master."

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "And with falcon to."

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says to you, "What is Sir?"

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Using the gryphon and bow."

Darcelle's mouth turns up as her face breaks into a smile.

You nod your head emphatically.

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "No thats what i do when i spar."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "And if you're using your own falcon 
you have two falcons beating one fighter."

Darcelle's mouth turns up as her face breaks into a smile.

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "I deal 1k damage with bow of hunt 1."

You say, "Monkshood can be a pain in combat."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Bows are quite a nice choice if used properly."

You say, "Still, you need range."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Well, if they are smart, they can just
lose the gryphon and leave your line of sight."

You nod your head emphatically.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Because you have to take time to calm
down your allied entities."

Darcelle's mouth turns up as her face breaks into a smile.

You say, "Yes, and you need both balance and equilibrium for that."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "Trust me people are more interested in 
finding you than that."

You say, "Not really."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "And it can be very hard to keep 
balance with two falcons hitting you."

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "Those i sparred did."

You say, "High level combatants can also be smart."

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "Well i only spar for fun."

Darcelle's mouth turns up as her face breaks into a smile.

"Heh heh heh" you chuckle.

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "When i get bow and gryphon."

Darcelle's mouth turns up as her face breaks into a smile.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "It's bad to have your combat relying 
on bow and gryphon so heavily.."

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "I dont combat that often."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "If you are ambushed, say at a 
landmark, you need to resort to close range."

You say to Darcelle, "You should spar more often."

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "I'm not a great fighter yet Sir."

You say, "Yes, it takes time, do not worry, just have to work on it."

Darcelle's mouth turns up as her face breaks into a smile.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "But still, relying on a bow and a 
gryphon is learning nothing."

You say, "Besides, you'll have enough time as Squire."

You nod your head emphatically.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "In my opinion, anyway."

You say, "Learning new tactics is always a good idea."

You say, "Ok, now, let's get to more class specific skills."

You say, "Let's see the Paladins first."

You say, "What kills can they use in combat and how?"

You say, "Let's take them one by one."

You say, "Starting with chivalry."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Raze for defnces..."

You say, "First ... CrossSlash."

You shift your eyes from side to side suspiciously.

Kira tilts her head curiously.

Lady Kira Alberic says, "What now?"

You say, "Ok, let's skip CrossSlash."

You snicker softly to yourself.

Darcelle Duses, Page of Indiana says, "Gotta go for a moment got a deal on 
somthing."

Darcelle's mouth turns up as her face breaks into a smile.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly shuts up.

With flawless elegancy, Darcelle extends a regal arm and bows low.

You nod your head emphatically.

You say, "CrossSlash is a weak version of DSL."

You say, "Useles in real combat."

Asilient jumps into the air and lands with a bump.

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "So, raze."

You say, "Now, this is basicly a free version of hammer tattoo."

You say, "VERY useful."

Kira grins and nods.

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Well, hammer tattoo doesn't take down 
aura.."

You say, "Well, if you don't have chivalry you'll most likely not have too much
trouble with that."

You snicker softly to yourself.

You say, "So, remember about this skill when someone is shielding against you 
and/or using skullcap aura."

You say, "Basicly, one raze instead of a wrong timed DSL can mean the 
difference between life and death."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Now, block."

You move over to block the down exit.

You stop blocking.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Stopping your opponent from 
leaving..."

You say, "Who tells me when this one is useful."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Rendered useless in the middle of, 
say, a field."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Good to block in someone to cleave 
them.."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "As long as there is one exit."

You say, "Yes .. and not only."

You say, "Basicly, in combat it is always a good idea to block one exit .."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "In case they try fleeing and run 
headlong into you?"

You nod your head emphatically.

You say, "Now, there is a specific class against this can be VERY helpful."

You hum innocently at Saradin.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Blocking can be countered with barge,
though, can't it?"

You ponder the situation.

Kira grins mischievously at you.

You say, "In order to barge you have to be in a room nearby as far as I know."

Borscin nods his head emphatically.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Exactly.."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "If you are blocking one exit out of 
three, they can leave and then barge."

You say, "Yes, can be an idea .. still, it can be useful to just keep them 
there."

You say, "Who can tell me why blocking can be very useful against monks."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Sometimes monks leave to jumpkick."

You say, "Yes."

Lanosian Knight, Lady Arota arrives from the down.

You doff your hat cordially at Arota.

Kira runs up to Arota and wraps her arms around her in an affectionate glomp.

You say, "So, while fighting a monk, try to block a direction and use rite of 
piety if you can."

You say, "Unles you want to get a jumpkick .."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "I have little choice but to get a 
jump kick."

Lady Kira Alberic says, "Who wouldn't?"

The corners of Asilient's mouth turn up as he grins mischievously.

The corners of your mouth turn up as you grin mischievously.

You say, "Now .. fitness."

You say, "We've talked about this one last time so we'll skip it as it's not an
offensive one anyway."

Kira gives a pained sigh.

Lady Kira Alberic says, "I wasn't here last time."

You say, "Let's see barge and Lunge though."

You say to Kira, "Read the last 1-2 news on Lyceum."

You say, "Now, what does barging do?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Forces one person fout in one 
direction."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Out, rather."

You say, "Yes, still it is most hard to push."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Provided you are in a room near 
them."

You say, "First, it doesn't work if they are shielded."

You say, "Second, doesn't work if they use mass."

Lanosian Knight, Lady Arota Alehthrra Bloodrose says, "Or stand firm."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You nod your head at Arota.

You say, "So ... it most cases it's not of any use in combat."

You say, "It can be useful let's say to save someone from danger at most."

You say, "But in combat, better to avoid it."

You say, "You can try to use it to get someone into your rites for example, but
in most cases will fail."

You say, "Now, lunge."

You say, "This one is quite nice."

You say, "It could be better .. but it can be useful sometimes."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You laughingly say, "So, what does it do?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Similar to barge, except it attacks 
with your weapon?"

You shake your head.

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Well, not really."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "From an adjacent room."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "You can lunge at someone and deal 
damage."

You nod your head emphatically.

You say, "Still, it could work as impale also ..."

You say, "But for now it doesn't do anything else than damage."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan asks, "It could?"

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Oh, yeah."

You say, "I mean I wish it could."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Me too.."

You say, "Since it takes quite a bit of time to do it."

You say, "And it doesn't do too much damage."

You say, "It simply takes someone by surprise."

You say, "Still, jump in the room and dsl them still works better."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Now, Impale."

You lick your lips.

You say, "This one is fun."

You say, "Still, for a damage troll it is most difficult to pull."

You say, "For a raja with rapiers .. well, it's piece of cake."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Especially if you are using axes, 
since you can't impale with axes."

You nod your head emphatically.

You say, "So, if you are fighting a Troll with axes ya can be sure we won't 
impale you."

Tears fill your eyes and begin to slowly run down your face.

Borscin wraps a comforting arm around you.

You say, "Still, if you are fighting him ..."

You point accusingly at Borscin.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "But there are others to worry about."

You say, "Now EXPECT that."

You nod your head emphatically.

You say, "So, just remember to writhe if you are imaple and stand up .. also 
eat bloodroot if paralysed."

You snicker softly to yourself.

Lanosian Knight, Lady Arota Alehthrra Bloodrose says, "Important thing to do."

Arota shifts her eyes from side to side suspiciously.

You say, "Impale all by itself it's not that powerful."

You say, "BUT."

You say, "If you combine it with disembowel .."

You say, "Now that's a nice combo."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "It's uber ouch time."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "I remember that bit all too well."

You grin mischievously at Asilient.

Arota snickers at Asilient.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Really hurts."

You say, "Now, another skill that can be helpful with impale and not only ... 
Battlecry."

You say, "It is our only skill that stuns."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Forces me to drink out all of my 
health and eat my whole moss supply."

You say, "Yet it is very hard to use."

Asilient sniffles softly.

"Heh heh heh" you chuckle at Asilient.

You say, "Now, the only good thing about Battlecry is that many people forget 
to stand after it."

You say, "It has bad balance."

You say, "But it does its job."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Battlecry stuns and strips 
deafness..."

Asilient looks about himself, rubbing his chin thoughtfully.

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Well."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Not exactly.."

You say, "Still it doesn't work if you're deaf."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Battlecry strips deafness, first."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "If they aren't deaf, then it stuns and
makes them prone."

You nod your head emphatically.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Ah... I knew it stripped deafness."

You say, "Right."

You say, "Now, let's skip the bowmanship .. we'll talk about it some other time
.. and let's see RSL."

You say, "RazeSlash."

You say, "As it sounds, it's RAZE + Slash."

You say, "Not DSL."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Similar to raze except you deal 
damage simultaneously."

You say, "Just Slash."

You say, "So, you also deliver one venom."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Remember that."

You say, "Most times you'd want to use kalmia on the second sword."

You say, "Can anyone tell me why?"

Lanosian Knight, Lady Arota Alehthrra Bloodrose says, "So they can't put up a 
rebounding aura again."

You say, "Exactly."

Lanosian Knight, Lady Arota Alehthrra Bloodrose says, "So you don't have to rsl
again."

The corners of Arota's mouth turn up as she grins mischievously.

You say, "In most cases it is effective."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Can also be a lead up to a venom 
lock?"

You say, "Yes, but in many cases is too weak for that."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Now, let's see the last one from Chivalry that we'll talk about 
today, Cleaving."

Borscin snickers softly to himself.

You say, "Most people know it is our only actual instant kill."

You say, "Similar to behead."

You say, "Still, it has some advantages over behead."

Borscin grins and nods.

You say, "Who can tell me which are those."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Well, you can start cleave whenever, 
behead they have to be prone in some way."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Speed?"

You say, "Yes .."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "You can also start cleave before the 
person is in your room. They just have to be in your room for the second 
message."

You say, "The prone thing is one of the most important."

You say, "Many people like to use cleave in combination with double epteth or 
something similar to make sure they can't leave."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "It makes less effort for actually 
using cleave.."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Still, double epteth doesn't make them prone."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "It slows them down, though."

You say, "So in order to behead them this way you'd need to first make them sit
somehow."

You say, "Which takes time."

You say, "And may not even work."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "So, cleave is by far a better choice."

You say, "Now, we've already talked about the venoms to use against knights."

You say, "Let's see the basic ideas on choosing venoms though."

You say, "What should one remember while choosing venoms against them?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "They can do the same to us?"

You say, "First ... what do you relly want? To go for venom lock ... to go for 
damage .."

You say, "So, you need to plan far ahead your tactic."

You say, "And try to watch for your oponent's moves as well."

You say, "For example, if you notice he is paralysed and didn't eat bloodroot, 
try a cleave .. ya can never know."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Ok, now, let's see other classes as well."

You say, "The best way to learn about Knight is in actual fight since they can 
use just about any venoms."

You say, "Ok, now let's see forestals."

You say, "So, Druids and Sentinels."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Selarnia.."

"Heh heh heh" you chuckle at Borscin.

You say, "What should one expect from them?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Morphing."

You say, "And ..."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Entities?"

You say, "Yes and yes."

You say, "Their animals can be very annoying and deadly sometimes."

Borscin nods his head sagely.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Especially the lemming..."

You grin mischievously at Asilient.

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Lemming and butterly mix.."

You say, "Also, traps and groves."

You nod your head at Borscin.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "I hate those little guys.."

You say, "Traps are quite powerful, yet you can and should move in most cases 
to avoid them."

You say, "As for groves .."

You say, "Well, my best advice is to get deliverance and hope they are at least
angelic."

You snicker softly to yourself.

The corners of Borscin's mouth turn up as he grins mischievously.

You say, "Trying to fight a Druid in his grove is in most cases suicidal."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Yes it is..."

You say, "First, their morphs."

You say, "One of the most .. easiest is the basilisk."

You say, "In this one they can use glare to paralyse and gaze to give you 
stupidity."

You say, "They are quite fast."

You say, "So keep an eye for those."

You say, "Now, one of the most annoying from Sentinels though is sting ..."

You say, "Basicly, free loki."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Now loki is a quite powerful weapon itself."

You say, "So make sure you have diagnose before fighting them."

You say, "Now, Icewyrm."

You say, "Now, this one is interesting .. perhaps not for the damage but for 
the fact that they can very easily freeze you."

You say, "And that fast .. very fast."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "So, caloric is your friend."

You say, "Now, in case you get frozen .. you are just as dead in most cases."

You say, "Who can tell me why>?"

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Well."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "You can't do much frozen."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Because.... It leaves you especially 
vulnerable to attacks?"

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Plus they can go to gorilla morph."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "And pound."

You say, "Exactly Borscin."

You say, "A very common tactic for sentinels is to just freeze then pound."

You say, "It does easily 3k damage from one hit."

You say, "So very much instant kill."

You say, "So, be aware and never get frozen."

Asilient puts his hands on his hips and goes "Hmmm!"

You say, "Now, their animals."

You say, "I hope you know all of them too well."

You say, "So, you should know that your main goal while fighting a sentinel is 
.. well, among others to get rid of those buggers somehow."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Fox and wolf damage, I think it's fox
and wolf, so does badger... Lemming strips defenses and I can't remember what 
the butterfly does.."

Asilient looks about himself, rubbing his chin thoughtfully.

You say to Asilient, "Butterfly transfixes."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "If you don't have blindness, it will 
transfix you."

You say, "Badger causes lots of bleeding."

You say, "Raven makes you lose balance."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Like our falcons."

You say, "Wolf and fox hit for damage."

You nod your head emphatically.

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Raven's a bit slower."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Then our falcons."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Yes, but still, with all attacking, can be very powerful."

Borscin nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Now, what can we use to get rid of them?"

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Well."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "We can dsl them to death."

You say, "Let's see some effective tactices."

You grin mischievously at Borscin.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Monkshood to turn them on their 
masters."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Or use monkshood so they attack there 
owner."

You say, "Ok, let's see monkshood."

You say, "Usually, monkshood alone can't be too helpful."

You say, "So a monkshood/kalmia combo .. or monkshood/aconite can be quite 
effective."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

Borscin nods his head emphatically.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "To make monkshood stick."

You say, "Still, in some cases .. many actually ya'll need more than that."

You say, "So sometimes ya'll simple have to kill them."

You say, "They are not too powerful."

You say, "So ya can go for the butterfly and the badger for example easily."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "But a pain if you let them stick 
around."

You nod your head emphatically.

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "I'd go for the raven and the lemming. 
Lemming is annoying when stripping defs, and raven knocking off balance is 
annoying too."

You smile and say, "Yes, the raven is a good target as well, I said butterfly 
because it tends to die easily though."

Borscin nods his head emphatically.

You say, "So, unles you have a good idea to kill the owner, you should keep 
your eyes on those ents."

You say, "Ok, now their trident or spear can also be very annoying .. and 
effective .."

You say, "They can either trip you with the spear or use the trident as a ... 
second rebounding aura."

You say, "In any cases, you might want to make those less effective."

You say, "Any idea on how to achieve that?"

You say, "For the trip first."

You say, "Well .. you can go for double epteth ..."

You say, "Simple and effective."

You say, "If they have their arms broken they can't use the spear."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "As for the trident rebound?"

You say, "This one is more like shielding but more effective."

You say, "So I'd just force them for example kick one of their animals."

You say, "Simple sand with a bit of luck effective."

You say, "And rather."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Ah, And they're animal will turn on 
them?"

You nod your head emphatically.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Monkshood not required for that 
little trick."

You shake your head.

You say, "Ok, other good combos against them are .. well, anything that uses 
selarnia."

You say, "It is quite hard to make selarnia stick though .. but it does the job
if they're not trans morphing."

You say, "Anyway, as for druids .."

You say, "Well, just use any attacks as long as you are outside their grove."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Keep them out of their grove would be
a start."

You nod your head emphatically.

You say, "If you are trapped inside their grove .. well, I wouldn't want to be 
in your place."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Yet... It would be hard to get them 
out of their grove.."

You say, "Now, let's see the ... tada ... monks."

You nod your head at Asilient.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Make sure you prvent them from 
hitting you with combos as much as possible."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Prevent, too."

You say, "Ok, the monks are quite good at fighting if not VERY .."

You say, "Yes, that is a good tactic."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Epteth and epseth work a treat."

You nod your head sagely.

You say, "Also aconite can do wonders."

You say, "Simply because they use many hits."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Vernalius to make there attacks 
weaker, xentio to make them miss."

You say, "If they have stupidity most will fail."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Not to mention aconite, hit them with
curare after shrivel seems to work."

You nod your head emphatically.

You say, "Yes, also the low and mid-level monk combatants seem to have a 
problem with hellsight as well."

You wink knowingly.

"Bah!" Asilient retorts disgustedly.

Your mouth turns up as your face breaks into a smile.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "If only I had hellsight."

"Heh heh heh" you chuckle at Asilient.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "That'd be a good start."

You say, "Ok, another good idea against a monk is to ALWAYS use your falcon."

You say, "Keeping them off balance is always a good idea."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Slows their combos down..."

You say, "So, aconite-curare, epseth/epseth, xentio, vernalius combos are all 
good for them."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Although one monk actually scared my 
falcon off in one spar."

"Heh heh heh" you chuckle.

You say, "Yes, they have many nice skills against us."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Ah, and here's a tip."

You say, "If you plan to run from a monk .. always SHIELD in that room."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Slap a monk to catch them by 
surprise?"

"Heh heh heh" you chuckle.

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Well.. the slap thing might work, 
too..."

You say, "Ok, let's get to .. snakes now."

You pat Asilient in a friendly manner.

You say, "Syssins."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Sileris, sileris, sileris."

Asilient runs around and around you, flapping his arms madly.

You say, "Good, you've learnt your lesson."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "I've never fought a syssin...?"

You roll your eyes.

You say, "Yes, sileris is a MUST against them."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Now, if you can't prevent them from biting though, make sure you have
a venom elixir."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Trying to get them to forget to purge
their venoms might be an idea, too."

The corners of your mouth turn up as you grin mischievously.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "The number of times I've seen a 
syssin start urting because they forgot to purge..."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Hurting, too."

"Heh heh heh" you chuckle.

You say, "Ok, so they can hit you VERY fast with venoms, can use delphinium and
gecko for free not like us."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "No, We get charged."

You say, "Also, their dstab with deplh can stip BOTH cohosh and kola."

Asilient sniffles softly.

You grin mischievously at Asilient.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Gah..."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "So it's vital to keep eating kola and
cohosh."

You nod your head emphatically.

You say, "Very."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Or at least keep one up."

You say, "Also, make sure you use sileris if you plan to shield."

You say, "They DO bite through shield."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Snakes?"

You say, "Yes."

Reynald nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Ok, now about illusions .."

Reynald shudders violently.

The corners of Reynald's mouth turn up as he grins mischievously.

You say, "Some can use these pretty effectivelly."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Fun."

You say, "Can really mess up some people."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Throw you off of herb/salve 
balance."

You nod your head emphatically.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "The inflict you."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "You've got to distinguish between 
illusions and the real thing."

You say, "So watch out for these .. no real way to avoid them other than using 
the arti mask of lifevision."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "You hardley can."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Now .. what can we use against them though?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Kick!"

You grin mischievously at Asilient.

Asilient quickly ducks down, looking at you in alarm.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "We can blind ourself."

You say, "Well, usually snakes have quite low health."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "And mindseye."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Yes, that is a must in the arena anyway."

You snicker softly to yourself.

"Heh heh heh" Reynald chuckles.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "So we just kick 'em around to some 
effect."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "If you wern't a knight...."

Reynald utters a deep, rumbling laugh.

You say, "So the best idea is to go for damage against them."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "No venom combo is really effective against them."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "You might find your self cureing 
afflictions than attacking."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Always stopping them in their tracks 
is good."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Just have to keep attacking."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "So my personal advice go either for aconite/curare and hope at least 
one sticks ... or prefarar/prefarar and pray you don't get killed."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Falcon is essential."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Always have sileris."

You say, "True."

You say, "True and true."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "And constantly reapply through 
battle."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Or you will screw yourself."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Unless you have bloodboil."

You say, "Aye, also try to hellsight them .. or basicly use skills from 
devotion."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "But we dont."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Like demons?"

You say, "Things to remember while fighting snakes:."

You nod your head at Asilient.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "They can hide?"

Reynald nods his head and says, "Aye."

You nod your head emphatically.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "They can also try hanging you if I 
recall."

You say, "Demons, warding if you can block the only exit, piety otherwise."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Keep herbs and pipes out, keep 
pipes lit, keep sileris on."

You nod your head at Reynald.

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Also don't try to compete at bowmanship with them."

Reynald utters a deep, rumbling laugh.

You say, "In most cases they are better."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "You would be one dead person."

You nod your head sagely.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Outmatched in that area. Best to get 
up close to them."

You nod your head emphatically.

You say, "Axes work like magic."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "And attack like crazy."

"Heh heh heh" Reynald chuckles.

"Bah!" Asilient retorts disgustedly.

You say, "Ok, now .. Magi."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Gah, I find them a pain.."

You say, "One of the hardest class if you can't deliver them ..."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "OOH!"

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "I CAN do magi!"

The corners of Reynald's mouth turn up as he grins mischievously.

You say, "A Magi can lay just about 15-20 vibes in a room .."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "*cough* magus *cough*."

You say, "And they DO hurt."

You grin mischievously at Reynald.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "And levitation with some tremors."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Maybe some ejection."

You say, "There are too many to mention them all."

Reynald cackles hellishly.

You say, "So, best idea with magis, get the out of their vibes."

Reynald nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Best weapon, deliverance if possible."

You say, "If you can't ... try to force them to unenemy you."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Draw them out and kill them, but 
watch out for reflection."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "And freeze."

You say, "If none works ... pray you are lucky."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "If you are not enemy, they cant 
hurt you with hailstorm."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "One of their main attacks."

You say, "And no vibes attacking."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "And if you suddenly see a 
countdown, run like hell."

The corners of Reynald's mouth turn up as he grins mischievously.

"Heh heh heh" you chuckle.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "The Holocaust globe."

You say, "True."

You say, "Holocaust is a real pain."

Reynald nods his head emphatically.

You say, "So, what venoms would you use against Magis?"

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Double epteth."

You nod your head at Borscin.

"Woot!" Reynald shouts excitedly.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Curare is good."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Monkshood."

You say, "Epteth is very nice .. also good old aconite/curare does its job."

You ask, "Monkshood?"

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Get his weird to attack."

Reynald nods his head emphatically.

You say, "100 damage?"

Reynald nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Not worth the effort."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Better to focus your energies 
elsewhere."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Still, 100 can be the dividing 
line between win and loss."

"Woot!" Reynald shouts excitedly.

You say, "Erm .. usually it's the 2k damage from their attacks that might 
bother ya."

"Heh heh heh" Reynald chuckles.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "The wonderful flame whip."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Or hailstorm."

You snicker softly to yourself.

You say, "Yeah."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Or useing the staff."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "But freeze sucks too."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "But caloric is noce."

You say, "Yes, they are good, but nothing compares to vibes."

The corners of Reynald's mouth turn up as he grins mischievously.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Vibes rock."

You say, "Basicly fight in their vibes and you are most of the time dead."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Palpitation."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "That always hurts."

You say, "Now .. let's get to ... occultists."

You say, "Perhaps this is the only class against which we have some guild 
skills."

You snicker softly to yourself.

Reynald nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Ok, first thing you think when you say occultism .. ents."

You shiver violently.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Heh."

You say, "And they sure have lots."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Any one, its a devotion skill."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Common."

You say, "Yes, banishment is good against them."

Reynald congratulates you with some wild clapping.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Indiana is smart."

Reynald grins mischievously at you.

You say, "Sir Indiana you mean?"

Reynald nods his head emphatically.

Freesia beams broadly at you.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "My appologies."

You say, "Still, the strange thing is that occulstists can destroy banishment."

You say, "So watch out for that."

You say, "Also, a good idea would be to orb their ents."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Chaos orb."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "+ writhe."

You nod your head emphatically.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "= bye bye."

Borscin tells you, "Indorani..not occultists."

The corners of your mouth turn up as you grin mischievously.

You tell Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan, "Occultist class."

You say, "Now .. perhaps one of the most annoying thing about them .. Aeon."

"Eep!", Reynald screams in fright.

Borscin tells you, "No such thing...they became the Indorani class, just like 
shadowsnakes became the Syssin class."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Yuk."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Smoke some elm."

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "And you are good."

You tell Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan, "Very well .. tell Syvelium when he
teaches you devotion as well :D."

You say, "AND speed elixir."

Reynald nods his head emphatically.

Borscin tells you, "Ha, I haven't learned Devotion in a while, although i'm 
sure you are right."

Syvelium draws his glowing blade and carefully examines it, cradling it 
lovingly. He takes a step back and swings a few cross-slashes into the air 
before him, then returns the blade to its sheath, a satisfied smile on his 
face.

Reynald de Chatillon, Paladin Recruit says, "Beautiful blade Sir Syvelium."

With a flourish of his arm, Syvelium, the Paladin bows deeply.

You say, "So, while fighting Indorani make sure you are drinking speed elixlir 
like darkbrew and smoke elm of course when you need."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Also, some combos against them?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Monkshood and aconite?"

You say, "Very good."

You say, "Still, it's not the most effective."

You say, "Epteth is also VERY good."

You say, "And yes, monkshood/kalmia can be good."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Then..."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Epteth is good against tarot 
throwing."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Kick."

You nod your head at Borscin.

Asilient hums innocently to himself.

You say to Asilient, "Well, they tend to have quite few health in most cases 
unles they are Mikal so you should be able to go for damage."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Also, beware of visisect."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Which raises the thought that Mikal 
is normally on a steed.."

You say, "If you have all limbs broken, you're as good as dead."

You grin mischievously at Asilient.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Stratle should work on him..."

You say, "Never tried ..."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Startle, even."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Well, it'd upset him at the least."

The corners of Asilient's mouth turn up as he grins mischievously.

You say, "Ok, other venoms that work against Indorani and not only .. vardrax."

You say, "It is a powerful venom and can be of good use sometimes."

You say, "For a raja with rapiers at least."

You snicker softly to yourself.

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Meh."

You say, "Ok, let's see Consanguine a bit now."

You say, "Vampires if you want to call them that way."

You say, "They are a quite powerful fighting class."

You say, "Simply because their normal attack does alot of damage and also 
stuns."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Then .. their ents."

You say, "Ghasts can paralyse, wraiths .. well, basicly they all do alot of 
damage."

You say, "And the best part .. they can give 2 afflictions at a time."

You say, "Also quite fast."

You say, "So, most of the time, they are a pain."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "And if they can use a sword they can 
throw in a third affliction."

You nod your head emphatically.

You say, "So what can we use against them?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "A good push to anywhere in sunlight?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Banishment.."

You say, "Yes, that could be a good idea .."

You say, "Why Banishment?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "To get rid of their ents, but if I 
remember right there is one that prevents that."

You say, "Erm, banishment works on chaos ents only."

You say, "Not these."

"Meh," Asilient utters noncommitally.

You say, "For these, you'd have to use monkshood and hope you are lucky."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Monkshood would be good for the heavy
hitters."

You nod your head emphatically.

You say, "Still, as usually it's hard to make Monkshood stick."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "So, against this class you just have to use your immagination .. 
there is no general path to follow."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "It'd be an idea to apply sileris, 
too."

You raise an eyebrow questioningly.

You say, "No .."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "No?"

You say, "Sileris only works against snake bites."

Asilient looks about himself, rubbing his chin thoughtfully.

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Vampires can feed."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Unless you have sileris."

Comprehension flashes across your face.

You say, "Ok, never knew that."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Yeah, which is what I was making a 
point of."

The corners of Asilient's mouth turn up as he grins mischievously.

You say, "Ok, my mistake then."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "They have a way of stripping sileris,
too."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Dunno how they manage it, though."

You say, "Oh well, you just have to try to find a weakness against them."

You say, "Ok, let's see now .. Luminaries."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Uh..."

You give a pained sigh.

You say, "As far as I see it they are the hardest to kill .. for Paladins even 
harder."

You say, "Basicly they have lots of skills against us and us none against 
them."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "First .. monkshood doesn't work on angels."

You say, "So don't try that one."

You say, "Second .. for a paladin perhaps mana is not that important."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "But they can drain it?"

You say, "Yeah."

You say, "Yet in a fight with lumis, make sure you have a mana vial."

You say, "And eat moss."

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "If you get to 1/3 mana they can just absolve."

You say, "Then, they have smite."

"Awwwww!" you say.

You say, "Which HURTS."

You say, "Now a smite can do up to 1-1.5k damage."

You say, "You can use rebounding against that though."

You say, "Also, they have devotion .. so they can use rites."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "What sucks about smite is that they 
have a skill called heresy, what it does is hurts those that are highly 
aligned, so being sepharic is bad."

You say, "And all nice skills he have there as well."

You nod your head emphatically.

You say, "The deal with rites is a bit more complicated."

You say, "Since there can only be one rite of a kind in a room ..."

You say, "In a paladin vs luminari fight you' basicly fight for who lays them 
down first."

You say, "Ok, now their falcon can also gives lots of thinks .. spiritwrack is 
the most common skill used though."

You say, "So make sure you eat lobelia or use diagnose constantly."

You say, "Oh well, any idea of combos to use against them?"

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Not really much to do."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Hrm..."

You nod your head at Borscin.

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Aconite curare to try to stop along 
with epteth."

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "Punch and kick?"

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Vernalius to make them wake, xentio to
make them miss."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "..weak, not wake."

You say, "Yes, but basicly they are hard to use .. and usually they will try an
instant kill no you and give lots of damage."

You say, "So, in a Paladin vs Lumie fight .. Lumis are always in advantage."

You say, "They can use flare."

You say, "And hellsight."

You say, "Can make the falcon go away."

Smiling wistfully, Syvelium quietly hums a song from the Enorian choir.

You say, "So .. not too nic."

You say, "Nice rather."

You say, "Ok, I believe we went through all classes."

You say, "There were quite lots of them."

Borscin nods his head sagely.

Asilient nods his head emphatically.

You say, "Now, it is hard to learn sure thing methods to kill someone."

You say, "So you just have to practice and .. well, practice some more."

You say, "Ok, I believe that should be all for today ... any questions?"

Asilient Windrayn, Squire of Kelly says, "None that spring to mind."

You nod your head emphatically.

You say, "Ok then ... thank you all for comming."

You say, "And joining."

Borscin Alavon, Squire of Kiyotan says, "Thanks for having the class."

You say, "I'll post the log from this class soon near the last one."